How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

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For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

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Sain (a barber)

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

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I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

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Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Why do a lot of autistic people not know how to style their hair?

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

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— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Now here in this verse

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Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Will friendly dogs protect their owners?

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Does whey protein affect the kidneys?

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

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Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

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ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

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My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

NOW…

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Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

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ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

CONCLUSION:

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

I am like a fish out of water,

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Kabir (a weaver)

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

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Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

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From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

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Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

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At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

then who is there to know what happens without?

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||